See this trade on my tradervue.com trading journal.
NWSA 5min
A nice beyond the opening range high setup -- buy above 14th setup bar. This particular variation of the setup [pb-btorh] hasn't worked as well in the recent past (sharp and shallow pullback to the opening range high), but it also had a unique pattern that I call the "3 bar reversal" [3br]. So I ranked it a B grade and took it.
CONCERNS:
One concern was the steep retracement of the 2nd swing that went below .618 level, although that was supported by the 5ema. Another concern was that the pullback just prior to the setup bar was shallow.
THE 3 BAR REVERSAL:
But the reason why this worked well is due to what I call a textbook "3 bar reversal." Trader-X had briefly mentioned liking to see failed bars similar to this in his archives.
a) 1st bar is a red shooting star/inverse hammer candle at swing high
b) Shorts enter below break the low of that 1st bar
c) 2nd bar is a green hammer, and makes the shorts nervous
d) 3rd bar breaks above the high of the 2nd bar. Shorts exit and longs enter
Note how the 3rd bar also ended up being a green hammer, confirming that this trade has a good probability of working.
EXIT:
Scaled out when it got nearly to the FE 1.168 level, as well as the last half when it broke beyond that level and came back. However, I left some money behind by not letting the trade run. It took nearly a couple hours of chop and consolidation to get to 16.50, so I'm not sure if it would have been worth the wait.
NOTES:
Trader-X took an earlier trade in NWS today and posted it on his website.
Thursday, August 11, 2011
EURCHF - swing trade example
A big challenge for me while in a trade is knowing when to hold 'em, and when to fold 'em. Sure, if you have your set targets and stops in place, it should be easy, right? But how often have you tightened up your stop, just to lock in a little profit or reduce your risk exposure...only to have it hit your stop the penny, and then resume going back in the right direction?
Swing trading as an exercise to let go
So one of the "exercises" I'm working on is to learn how to let a trade ride, until it tells me to get out. Let the trade shake, rattle, and roll all it wants, that is, until a key level breaks, a reversal pattern shows up, or it hits my stop and/or profit target. For me, swing trading helps me to let go of the second by second "details" that's required in day trading.
Why forex?
Back in the early '90s, I spent a little time trading the Swiss Franc futures when they were quite active on the CME, so I have an affinity for the Franc. I've barely kept an eye on the Forex charts on and off for a few years, but it's only recently that I've had the time to revisit the currencies. But more importantly, by trading the forex, I'm separating those trades from my equity trades, so there's greater mental segregation.
Some general observations on forex vs. stocks
The EURCHF came up on the daily charts as having broken some critical trendlines. I was stopped out of a couple earlier trade earlier with small losses, but this one more than made up for it. Here's what the daily charts looks like:
Entered on 8/4/11 based on the following conditions:
Exited on 8/11/11 based on the following conditions
What I could have done better
Each mini-contract required a little less than $300, and at the peak, I was up over $1300 per contract, and I eventually closed out a little less than half of that. A reminder to me that there is HUGE leverage in forex, and you really need to focus on risk.
It's interesting to go through an exercise such as this, since it's different in many ways from the usual day trade, and obviously quite different when compared to long term investments. I am at the stage of trying to experience various types of trading styles and conditions in order to grow as a trader, so from that perspective, mission accomplished. I've also realized that if necessary, I can be disciplined to hold a position over various bumpy rides for a week.
But from this exercise, I realize that there's still A LOT more I need to learn about myself before I can become a consistently profitable trader.
Swing trading as an exercise to let go
So one of the "exercises" I'm working on is to learn how to let a trade ride, until it tells me to get out. Let the trade shake, rattle, and roll all it wants, that is, until a key level breaks, a reversal pattern shows up, or it hits my stop and/or profit target. For me, swing trading helps me to let go of the second by second "details" that's required in day trading.
Why forex?
Back in the early '90s, I spent a little time trading the Swiss Franc futures when they were quite active on the CME, so I have an affinity for the Franc. I've barely kept an eye on the Forex charts on and off for a few years, but it's only recently that I've had the time to revisit the currencies. But more importantly, by trading the forex, I'm separating those trades from my equity trades, so there's greater mental segregation.
Some general observations on forex vs. stocks
- In general, Fib levels and trend lines still work well (just the way they always have)
- The 15 min charts are a good compromise to filter out noise
- Some elements of the Trader-X methods work (Fibs & candlesticks), but I've had to make some adjustments
- Unlike stocks, there's one indicator I use which is the fast stochastics (8, 3, 3).
- You can trade very big size
The EURCHF came up on the daily charts as having broken some critical trendlines. I was stopped out of a couple earlier trade earlier with small losses, but this one more than made up for it. Here's what the daily charts looks like:
Entered on 8/4/11 based on the following conditions:
- On daily chart, there was a breakdown below the lower trendline (see chart above)
- On 15 min chart, descending trendline acted as resistance, price failed at this level
- 5ema crossed below 100ma
- Stochastics hooked over
- Red candle formed
- Stop was above the high of the trigger bar
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| EURCHF - 15m - at time of entry on 8/4/2011 |
- Prior day high was broken
- Descending trendline of highs over past 4 days was broken
- The .618 retracement of the last swing on 60 min chart was broken
- 5ema crossed over the 100ema on 15 min chart earlier in the day (potential trend reversal)
- Multiple high swing highs and lows were in place
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| EURCHF- 60 min 8/11/2011 partial day |
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| EURCHF - 15 min 8/11/2011 partial day |
- When it hit near parity 1.00 (panic low) on 8/9, I should have considered scaling out partial
- My stop should have been closer to the point of breakout (I wanted to give it a lot of room, perhaps it was too much)
- Even better, my gut was telling me an hour before getting stopped out that a reversal is taking place, and that I should be long. But I didn't want to do a stop and reverse for the purposes of this exercise.
Each mini-contract required a little less than $300, and at the peak, I was up over $1300 per contract, and I eventually closed out a little less than half of that. A reminder to me that there is HUGE leverage in forex, and you really need to focus on risk.
It's interesting to go through an exercise such as this, since it's different in many ways from the usual day trade, and obviously quite different when compared to long term investments. I am at the stage of trying to experience various types of trading styles and conditions in order to grow as a trader, so from that perspective, mission accomplished. I've also realized that if necessary, I can be disciplined to hold a position over various bumpy rides for a week.
But from this exercise, I realize that there's still A LOT more I need to learn about myself before I can become a consistently profitable trader.
Wednesday, August 10, 2011
Great post regarding the value of reviewing your trades
Since the markets seem to be too choppy for me at the moment, I'm doing my best to stay away. I saw a tweet from @smbcapital regarding his post about two lessons from an improving trader. Bella is posting some great topics for folks like me still finding their way, and this recent post discussed the value of reviewing your trades. I left the following comment their website:
Bella,
Thanks for continuing to post great topics. The letter from your reader hit home with me, since reviewing my trades has also helped me significantly. Here's what I've recently done:
I've taken the last several months of trades and imported over 900 historical trades into an online trading journal a couple weeks ago. For those who don't have a trading journal setup yet, www.tradervue.com is a great new online trading journal that's free. I really like it after reviewing many others (free doesn't hurt), and the reports are also useful. Simple and elegant to use, but powerful.
By reviewing each of my historical trades carefully one by one (and trying to relive the moment -- why I took it, how I felt, etc.), and then writing journal notes and placing appropriate tags with useful metrics (grade, setup type, outcome, market conditions, target met or not, etc.), I can run reports to see what setups are working for me, how much those setups make, win/loss %, how well I executed, what type of trades are NOT working for me, etc. To get these types of reports, the "trick" is to spend the big effort to add meaningful tags into your trade journal records.
As you, Dr. Brett, and others have mentioned, I want to focus on my strengths. This journal is helping me significantly to discover what my strengths are, via facts from my actual trading results.
Updating each trade is taking a lot longer than I expected (it's a real grind) and I'm not quite done yet. But with what I have so far, what I'm learning about myself is on the verge of shocking, or maybe not. It's now easy for me to query how I would have done if I only took A and/or B quality setups (surprisingly big money with good accuracy), how much money I lost in "choppy" conditions (a lot), how much I lost when I took a trade while in tilt/revenge mode (don't even want to think about it), which setups work best for me, etc.
I'm also realizing that like an elite professional athlete that continues to reviews their tapes, monitors their stats, performs their drills and practices at 110%, etc., I will also need to maintain this high level of effort to understand and improve myself on a daily basis. This level of effort has become the new normal.
Thanks again!
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Tuesday, August 9, 2011
SPY - the stars align for a end of day buy
Posted this comment on the Trader-X blog earlier today:
Unfortunately, I wasn't around to even consider taking the trade. My TradeStation charts were too sluggish, likely due to all the volume. So I wimped out and played it safe by leaving while I was ahead a little bit for the day.
Very volatile day. We'll see if the party continues tomorrow...
SPY - 5min, buy above 15:35 for the following reasons:I can't say there was anything convincing enough for me to attempt to buy at the bottom, but catching potentially half of that late day monster move isn't too bad.
* Was above vwap, and 5ma crossed over earlier [VLCO setup]
* Around 25 minutes of consolidation (refueling after a big move from bottom)
* Broke above the 100 ma
* 5ma was rising and supported price
* Green hammer-like bar says, "You are clear for take off"
Unfortunately, I wasn't around to even consider taking the trade. My TradeStation charts were too sluggish, likely due to all the volume. So I wimped out and played it safe by leaving while I was ahead a little bit for the day.
Very volatile day. We'll see if the party continues tomorrow...
Monday, August 8, 2011
SPY - this is a crash?
Here's a quick observation of the SPY today. One comment I've read on my Twitter stream is that on the daily charts, it sure does look like a crash, but on the intraday charts, the selling has been quite orderly.
Since 95+% of my focus is on the intraday charts, I've also noticed how relatively uneventful the intraday chart patterns for the SPY and other indices have been over the past few days. Sure, it's a bit more volatile than usual and it doesn't seem out of the ordinary...until I see the % loss for the day.
Today, the SPY moved more like a typical stock that's in-play (news driven), so maybe that's why it didn't look that unusual to me. And something that Bella mentioned in his book, "One Good Trade", is that when you get significant volume in a stock, you neutralize much of the noise from the algos. I've found that it then usually results in a more natural trading action, which means the Fibonacci levels tend to work cleaner.
Here's an example of the SPY today, and how the Fibonacci levels worked well to help predict the low of the day (and see how it reacts at the other Fib levels). This calculation is similar to calculating a "measured move." In this case, the opening range is calculated, and then that range is simply subtracted from the opening range low.
Take into account the whole number effect of 112 acting as a magnet, and you can see that the forecast of 112.16 isn't that bad -- you can use a ballpark figure of 112-112.25 as a range to monitor for a bounce. I find these Fib levels more useful (and safer) as a target for exiting short positions, although for those who like to try and catch falling knives can also feel free...
So much for a crash, at least on an intraday basis. This pattern was similar to just another day at the office for a typical stock that's in-play. But then again, this is the SPY, a very heavy ocean liner of a stock that usually moves with slow and heavy steps.
Makes you think, if it moved so orderly but yet so much on heavy volume, how will the markets look if it becomes disorderly on heavy volume? Take a look at the monthly chart, going back to 2002.
Does it look like we're in a crash? Possibly, although it just looks like a bigger than usual pullback. But if we are crashing, this is just the beginning.
Since 95+% of my focus is on the intraday charts, I've also noticed how relatively uneventful the intraday chart patterns for the SPY and other indices have been over the past few days. Sure, it's a bit more volatile than usual and it doesn't seem out of the ordinary...until I see the % loss for the day.
Today, the SPY moved more like a typical stock that's in-play (news driven), so maybe that's why it didn't look that unusual to me. And something that Bella mentioned in his book, "One Good Trade", is that when you get significant volume in a stock, you neutralize much of the noise from the algos. I've found that it then usually results in a more natural trading action, which means the Fibonacci levels tend to work cleaner.
Here's an example of the SPY today, and how the Fibonacci levels worked well to help predict the low of the day (and see how it reacts at the other Fib levels). This calculation is similar to calculating a "measured move." In this case, the opening range is calculated, and then that range is simply subtracted from the opening range low.
- The opening range over the first major swing (70 min) = 3.11
118.38 high - 115.27 low = 3.11 - Forecast of "measured move" = 112.16
Opening range low 115.27 - opening range 3.11 = 112.16 - Today's actual low = 112.02
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| SPY - 5min 2011-08-08 |
So much for a crash, at least on an intraday basis. This pattern was similar to just another day at the office for a typical stock that's in-play. But then again, this is the SPY, a very heavy ocean liner of a stock that usually moves with slow and heavy steps.
Makes you think, if it moved so orderly but yet so much on heavy volume, how will the markets look if it becomes disorderly on heavy volume? Take a look at the monthly chart, going back to 2002.
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| SPY monthly - 2011-08-08 |
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